2023 Auction Synergy All rights reserved. We carry just about everything you may need for your kitchen, bathroom, or shower renovation project. So if the cold water supply drops, the cartridge also lowers the hot water supply by an equal amount. The effects of interest would be: (1) less time for the shower temperature to approach the set point, (2) longer period where the shower temperature stays at the set point, and (3) a slower decrease from the set point as the hot water tank gets colder. http://www.deltafaucet.com/customersupport/documentation/t17430.html?document=mi&documentIndex=0#flashWrapper. The large Shower faucet handle can be rotated to adjust the amount of water flowing from your showerhead (or tub spout in the case of a tub/shower combo). Each: 1 , The benefits of a 17T thermostatic shower cartridge still absolutely apply. The Tempassure 17T series cartridge does a better job keeping the temperature in exactly the range you set. It's important not only to know the flow rate of each individual spray outlet, but to also know the overall water demand required by the system when everything is turned on. It was very quickly shipped to us, even came a day earlier than promised. This is the original RP19804 cartridge that shipped in the Monitor 1300/1400 series valves from 1993 thru 2001. by. DoNotSellorShareMyPersonalInformation| USA . Dont know the model number? Unfortunately I dont know if using the Grohe tub spout would affect the volume control. During this type of adjustment you may experience a drop in water pressure from the showerhead. FREE & FAST Shipping 24/7 friendly Customer Service Newest and best here For DELTA RP32104 Monitor 17 Series Replacement Cartridge Assembly career-top.co.jp, US $41.5 NOT to fix single-function Monitor 13/14 series faucet Used to Delta monitor 1700 series dual-function shower faucet (1998-2005), discover the latest fashion trends. The small handle is used for setting the temperature. FOR SALE! Terms of Site Use| Thanks for your support. Watch this video to learn how to fix it. Slide O-ring (1) over cartridge and the bonnet nut (2). Best Regards, Danco 11001 Cartridge For Delta 1500 And 1700 Series Tub And Shower Valves. Why is the 17T version more expensive? Delta Cartridge Assembly RP46074 26 $57.28 Brass Craft SLD1325 Delta Plastic Tub & Shower Faucet Cartridge $89.52 New Delta RP46463 MultiChoice Universal 17 Series Tub & Shower Cartridge Assembly,Each $70.70 Delta T13290 Commercial Shower Trim with Pressure Balanced Cartridge, Chrome 1 Now $70.17 $74.05 The 17T gives you the ability to set the temperature and pressure independently, therefore you will need a control trim kit with two handles, designed to work with the 17T cartridge. If your house already has great water pressure save the money and order a 17 Series. We offer expert help and many great products. 8. *This cartridge was also used in the Delta Select product. Also, are there any other 17 series (square) that will work and are not on the list? The opaque colored legs changed to blue around 2001. Explore innovative solutions and advanced technologies for your home. Please contact us directly if further assistance is needed at this time. Thank you for your question. USA & International; Australia; Canada; France; Germany; Hi Mike, thanks for your comment. | Item #9212162 Terms of Sale| Thanks alot for making an easier method unavailable (that was sarcasm by the way not an actual "thanks"). The small handle is the temperature control. Thanks. You will not actually get hurt by a water temperature change if you are using any new Delta shower as they all comply with federal anti-scald guidelines. I recommend you give Delta call and see if they would replace it. New. The Delta RP47201 Valve Cartridge Assembly fits our Delta TempAssure 17T Series trim kits. All rights reserved. Turn up your water heater? Delta Faucet T17T451 SS Dryden One Handle Thermostatic Tub & Shower Faucet Trim. Whether you have the 17 or 17T really just determines whether the water may get a little warmer or cooler depending on water usage in other areas of the house. $182.77. Account; Cart The MultiChoice T17 series cartridge (2007 - present). You can also read more about Delta in our Complete Guide to Delta Shower Faucets. Free shipping. All Delta showers feature a temperature limit stop. It essentially limits the maximum "hot water" to "cold water" mix ratio coming out of the valve. Terms of Sale| I will point out, all Delta shower fixtures include a lifetime warranty which applies to both metal and plastic components. Start date 17 Aug 2017. It is designed to be compatible with hot and cold-water applications. The dark, gray cap was a lighter shade of gray until 2016. A.O. between 1974-1993. Entdecke NEU Delta ORIGINALTEILE RP46463 Patronenbaugruppe 17 SERIE Badewanne/Duschventile in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! A better plan might be for you to choose a style you like and then give Delta call. If you decided to turn your water heater temperature down to conserve resources, you might only get lukewarm water out of the shower head until you reset the limit stop. Delta Plastic Tub/Shower Cartridge Repair Kit. I emailed Delta with a question regarding the cartridge and 5 days later received a new cartridge in the mail, free of charge. Because they adjust temperature by maintaining a ratio between hot and cold water, when one drops, both drop. If you still have questions, please let us know! Disclaimer and Disclosure: FaucetList.com does not accept money, gifts, samples or other incentives in exchange for special consideration when preparing our buying guides. If I have 17 series in now trim and cart change I just switch out the cart to 17T without changing the trim? USA & International; Australia; Canada; France; Germany; Italy; Spain; United Kingdom; About Us; Removing Delta Faucet part # RP46463 can be done by first turning off the water and then removing the handle. It's not that it's hard, but it is definitely a bit of a hassle. Thank you Delta!! This is the current RP19804 cartridge that began shipping in 2015. As such, I am very weary of the plastic cartridge. We are pretty new to the whole social media thing and would appreciate your support! You just have to choose your favorite style and finish. There are two little plastic ears which, on my sample, snapped off. It sounds like your rotational limit stop may need adjusting. Part #DRP47201 | Item #2923333 | Manufacturer Part #RP47201. Then you can choose a compatible trim kit. I know that the 17T cartridge uses a thermal sensing wax to adjust the temperature so theoretically it *might allow the temperature to adjust more gradually, but I have no written evidence or documentation to support this. Hi Scott, thanks for your comment. Privacy Settings. Locations; Manufacturers; Pro Portal Login; Navigation. The 17T cartridge works like a thermostat to control the temperature of the water. Rosanna, Image Thumbnail, click to view zoomed product image. We are currently experiencing a higher than normal call volume and shipping delays for consumer orders. Smith 5.82-in x .17-in Rubber Faucet O-Ring. You'll see tons of great images and learn about all the hottest design trends. Pressure balance valve keeps water temperature within a safe 3 degree F (1.6 degree C), helping to protect you from sudden changes in hot or cold water pressure. Cartridge Assembly - MultiChoice Universal - 17 Series RP46463 | Delta Faucet Cartridge Assembly - MultiChoice Universal - 17 Series model#: RP46463 Write a review Dual-function volume and pressure balance temperature control Use with MultiChoice universal valve body & 17 or 18 series trim MultiChoice universal pressure balance cartridge assembly Their website lists for both cartridges either /-3.6F (/-1.7C) or /- 3F (/-1.6C). It's possible you simply don't want a shower system with 3 spray outlets but you still want the benefits offered by a thermostatic shower cartridge. CA. Price guide for collectable Vinyl Records, CDs, Cassettes, Reel-to-reel tapes, 8-Track cartridges, MiniDiscs and more! Register your products to expedite your service. The RP46463 is the current 17 series MultiChoice cartridge. Thanks for your comment. Hi Subhas, if you only need a cartridge replacement you can order one from Delta: https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=RP47201 It might be a good idea to search around a bit for delta item number RP47201 to see if you can find another seller who has one listed for less. Same county, same hard water. Good luck with your project and thanks again for the comment! Since you have a separate handle for the temperature and pressure, you have extra control over the water flow rate with a 17T fixture. If they both have the same dual controls what exactly makes them different? The difference between the 17 and 17T Series has to do with how exactly the changes are achieved internally by the shower valve cartridge. If you found this guide helpful please "like" us on Facebook. With the 17T true thermostatic shower you get stricter water temperature control. See our supply list and video shortcuts below to make installing even easier. LEAD LAW WARNING: In accordance with the US Federal or other States laws It is illegal to install products that are not lead free certified in potable water systems anticipated for human consumption. For my casea single Nebia shower system, with a max flow rate of around 1.2GPMI can find no discernible benefit to the extra $300 MSRP (about 65% more!) If you are looking for a stronger showerhead spray with really high water pressure then a 17T shower is probably a better bet. Remove the cartridge from the body. However, we do receive a referral fee from online retailers (such as Amazon) when readers click over to their websites from ours. This would affect the overall water flow rate to all spray heads in your shower system. I took off both hadles & unscrewed the screw & removed grey plastic lever and & the black round plastic part. This allows you to pre-set a maximum shower temperature to prevent scalding. See life the Delta way. I am thinking about updating to 17T assemblies in the master bath. Backflow Preventers Clamps Drain Fittings . By continuing to browse our site you consent to receive our cookies. $261.10 (30% off) eFaucets Item discovered at . T17038-SS Delta Monitor 17 Series Valve Only Trim in Stainless Transparency in Supply Chain Act Disclosure. If you are constantly in a battle adjusting the temperature dial up and down, you will find that a 17T dial to be more predictable with regards to exactly how much the water temp will change for a given rotation of the control. For more information see our, Cartridge for Delta 17 Series MultiChoice Tub and Shower Faucets, Be the first to review Cartridge for Delta 17 Series MultiChoice Tub and Shower Faucets. This 1700 Series Cartridge Assembly boasts dual-functional volume and pressure-balance temperature control for maximum comfort. Shower Systems with Integrated Diverter Control. This is second time this has had issues. Kitchen remodeling and renovations can be daunting, time consuming, and demanding. Part # DRP32104N. Youve mentioned a few times that the 17T controls the temperature within a narrower range than the 17, but Deltas website does not support this claim. Is the 17 T capable of completely restricting cold water flow on initial opening of the valve or does it only partially constrict cold flow on initial opening? Let's say you had a Shower with a 17 series cartridge. Is there adjustments that can be done with either the grey plastic lever or the black round plastic part because both have grooves on outer edges? Your shower water will remain the same temperature because of the hot / cold water pressure ratio adjustment performed by the cartridge. The dark, gray cap was a lighter shade of gray until 2016. Both Delta Monitor 17 Series and 17T TempAssure Series shower valve trim kits come in many great traditional and modern styles, feature beautiful finishes, have a lifetime Delta warranty, and include dual temp and pressure shower handle controls. That will help you understand the difference better. Thank you for your question. Perhaps they will have more insight. Typically these are marketed as tankless hot water heaters. Buyer feedback 859. This decreases the amount of cold water flowing into the shower. (or will it still mix hot and cold sides) If the 17T does this, then it will actually get your shower ready faster and save water, if you are simply leaving the temperature knob at warm all the time. The time it takes for the water to warm up, depends on how near your hot water heater is to the shower valve. Both work with the same rough-in valve (the part in the wall). But there are some pretty nice advantages to the Tempassure 17T series trim kits. Perfect fit, easy installation and perfect operation. More Buying Choices $54.44 (18 new offers) DELTA FAUCET T27T897, Chrome Cassidy Traditional TempAssure 17T Series Valve Trim with 3-Setting Integrated Diverter 8 $50092 It's actually not necessary to set it and re-set it every time you take a shower. Hope this makes sense! please let me know! 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